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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Help With MSK 3.14 And APC
Date: 27 Jan 1995 14:27:00 GMT
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In article <3g5uor$j8f@chopin.udel.edu>,
Jerry Alexandratos <darkstar@chopin.udel.edu> wrote:
>...
>I didn't mean that the pcsend/get macros don't work at all. They do.
>I should know, I use them almost everyday! What I meant was that there
>was no way to do the same functionality using APC with MSK on the local
>machine and CK on the host because there was no terminal emulation
>present (since I would have to escape back to the command line to
>execute them).
>
Maybe this will help.
There are different approaches to automating things. If you want the
client (the "local" Kermit, the Kermit that is running on the PC on your
desk, or whatever) to control things, then you do this with a script
program using INPUT and OUTPUT and related commands to send commands to
the host and read and act on its responses.
If you want the host to control things, then your local Kermit must be
in terminal mode, and the host sends commands to it embedded in APC
sequences.
A third configuration has the host Kermit program in server mode, and
the local Kermit controlling it with SEND, GET, REMOTE, and FINISH
commands. A fourth has the local Kermit in server mode and the remote
one controlling it in the same way.
Other combinations can be imagined, e.g. both Kermit programs running
scripts at the same time that interact with each other, but the main trick
is in appreciating that we don't have a "modeless" situation here, so when
automating things, the controlling script must be conscious of what mode
the controlled entity is in.
- Frank